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−	~~http://forums.swganh.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=233~~
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−	To reveal the mystery abour crafitng, and why you get different stats at the same experimental percentages on two different crafting sessions. You first have to calculate the weighted average for each single stat line. Since Estei and me found that the displayed percentage for assembly and experimentation is an average of each line, meaning that the displayed percentages for Experimental Damage is the average for Speed, Min, Max and Wound Chance. Same thing goes for Experimental Efficiency which is the average of Health, Action, Mind and Force Cost. To calculate the displayed assembly percentage you need to know the weighted average of all the available lines and then divide that number by four. And knowing the percentages for each line is very important since using resouces that gives you a better displayed percentages might not be the best for the single line.
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−	~~http://forums.swganh.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=199&sid=b46cad20d33b55015ee6ed5597c57430~~
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−	Almost every item that can be experimented on has stats . These stats are tied to particular experimentation categories. Wind generators have two categories: Efficiency (tied to extraction rate) and Storage (tied to hopper size).
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−	The experimental categories are displayed as percentages between 0% and 100%. The success type of the experiment ("good success", "great success", "moderate failure") determines how much improvement (or deterioration) is applied to that percentage. For example, a "great success" increases the category +7 for every point you spent; spend 5 points and get a great success, and the percentage increases by 35.
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−	Stats on in-game items have a minimum value (at 0% experimentation) and a maximum value (at 100%). The actual value of the stat is calculated using a linear scale between these two points and the experimental percentage you reached. You take the minimum stat value and add the stat range (Max - Min) times the experimental percentage.
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−	~~For example, crafting tools have a minimum effectiveness value of -15 and a maximum effectiveness of 15. If you experiment Effectiveness to 65%, the actual stat will be:~~
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−	~~-15 + (15 - (-15) ) * 0.65 = -15 + 30 * 0.65 = 4.5~~
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−	The higher you experiment a category, the closer you get to the max possible on the stats associated with that category. In elite crafting professions (mainly weaponsmith and armorsmith), items have subcomponents which also influence final stats.
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−	~~The limits on the "best" item you can make is determined by the hard-coded maximum at 100% experimentation,and resource quality.~~
−	~~Resource stats determine both the maximum experimentation percentage and (along with the assembly success) the starting experimentation percentage~~
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−	Every time you experiment, the item complexity raises by 1, which raises the risk of failure. (I also heard that higher complexity item requires higher rate of insurance, though I cannot verify this). Itï¿½s recommended to spend multiple points every experiment to reduce the chance of failure. Also you should only spend points in one attribute only in every experiment attempt since addition attributes beyond the first attribute adds +5% to the total risk. Itï¿½s better to spread the experiments on several attempts and one attribute per attempt.
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−	~~== stats ==~~
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−	~~Your assumption is correct, all experimentation in SWG uses this formula :~~
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−	~~Stat = [Base value at 0% experimentation] + ([Increase/%] x [Experimental Percentage])~~
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−	~~X-Wing : Mass = 97500 + (5000 x E) with E = Experimental Percentage~~
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−	~~The initial and maximum Experimental Percentage depend on the resource stats, resource amounts and the applicable stat percentages for the item youre making.~~
−	~~These values make up the Weighted Resource Value and determine the initial and maximum experimental percentage this way :~~
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−	~~Initial EP = 0.00000015 x WRV^2 + 0.00015 x WRV~~
−	~~Maximum EP = 0.001 x WRV~~

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+| SourcePage11 = Experimentation Source 11
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	The Experimental Damage line would in effect have a bar size that allows 9 blocks for experimentation, and the Experimental Efficiency line would have a bar with 10 blocks.		The Experimental Damage line would in effect have a bar size that allows 9 blocks for experimentation, and the Experimental Efficiency line would have a bar with 10 blocks.
−	The amount of initial percentage added to the bar by the assembly process factors into the displayed average as well. The REAL cap for the Experimental Damage line would be 0.86 not the displayed value of 0.85. Therefore, even though the player hits the displayed cap, they would still be allowed to continue experimenting on the line until they have maxed out all properties that remain (or run out of experimentation points). The same holds true for the Experimental Efficiency line where the displayed cap is at .93% but the highest properties are at 0.96 (allowing for 3% additional experimentation to be done).	+	The amount of initial percentage added to the bar by the assembly process factors into the displayed average as well. The REAL cap for the Experimental Damage line would be 0.86 not the displayed value of 0.85. Therefore, even though the player hits the displayed cap, they would still be allowed to continue experimenting on the line until they have maxed out all properties that remain (or run out of experimentation points). The same holds true for the Experimental Efficiency line where the displayed cap is at .93% but the highest properties are at 0.96 (allowing for 3% additional experimentation to be done). What happens in these cases is that the displayed experimentation bar (lower bar on the exp window) appears maxed out, however the player is still able to allocate experimentation points into the final allocation box until the 'real' cap is reached on any remaining property in the line that has not been maxed yet or until the player runs out of experimentation points to allocate.

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−	As shown above, Each type of success will vary depending on the success roll made. The only success rate of consequence are Critical Failures. When a critical failure occurs, the player ~~loses all resources used (but not components) and the item fails~~ to ~~be produced. Essentially the player must~~ start over ~~with crafting~~ the item ~~if a~~ critical failure ~~event happens~~.	+	As shown above, Each type of success will vary depending on the success roll made. The only success rate of consequence are Critical Failures. When a critical failure occurs, the player just has to start over on the item. Around march 2005, soe changed the critical failure process so that critical failures no longer destroy resources or components.

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-The final affect that assembly has on the experimentation process comes in the determination of the maximum cap, or length, for the experimentation line.  The experimentation line can range from 1-10 blocks in which the player can allocate experimentation points into. The size of the line determines the amount of blocks available to experiment. A value of 10% Correlates to 1 experimentation block for a total of 10 at 100%, however fractions come into play here to offer players an allocation method for experimenting when the line is not evenly cut off at the 10ths.  For example: a line of experimentation that is at 91% will have 10 blocks and a line at 90% would have 9 available. The extra block is made for the 91% event since the player must a means to allocate the remaining experiment points to max out the line. The line at 90% would be maxed out (if the experiment attempts are success) at 9 points allocated. In summary, The bar's length is determined solely by the highest percentage value of the experimentation property that is available to a line.
+The final affect that assembly has on the experimentation process comes in the determination of the maximum cap, or length, for the experimentation line.  The experimentation line can range from 1-10 blocks in which the player can allocate experimentation points into. The size of the line determines the amount of blocks available to experiment. A value of 10% Correlates to 1 experimentation block for a total of 10 at 100%, however fractions come into play here to offer players an allocation method for experimenting when the line is not evenly cut off at the 10ths.  For example: a line of experimentation that is at 91% will have 10 blocks and a line at 90% would have 9 available. The extra block is made for the 91% event since the player must a means to allocate the remaining experiment points to max out the line. The line at 90% would be maxed out (if the experiment attempts are success) at 9 points allocated.
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 The Experimental Damage line would in effect have a bar size that allows 9 blocks for experimentation, and the Experimental Efficiency line would have a bar with 10 blocks.
-The amount of initial percentage added to the bar by the assembly process factors into the displayed average as well.
+The amount of initial percentage added to the bar by the assembly process factors into the displayed average as well. The REAL cap for the Experimental Damage line would be 0.86 not the displayed value of 0.85. Therefore, even though the player hits the displayed cap, they would still be allowed to continue experimenting on the line until they have maxed out all properties that remain (or run out of experimentation points). The same holds true for the Experimental Efficiency line where the displayed cap is at .93% but the highest properties are at 0.96 (allowing for 3% additional experimentation to be done).

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	The Experimental Damage line would in effect have a bar size that allows 9 blocks for experimentation, and the Experimental Efficiency line would have a bar with 10 blocks.		The Experimental Damage line would in effect have a bar size that allows 9 blocks for experimentation, and the Experimental Efficiency line would have a bar with 10 blocks.
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−	The final affect that assembly has on the experimentation process comes in the determination of the maximum cap, or length, for the experimentation line. The experimentation line can range from 1-10 blocks in which the player can allocate experimentation points into. The size of the line determines the amount of blocks available to experiment. A value of 10% Correlates to 1 experimentation block for a total of 10 at 100%, however fractions come into play here to offer players an allocation method for experimenting when the line is not evenly cut off at the 10ths. For example: a line of experimentation that is at 91% will have 10 blocks and a line at 90% would have 9 available. The extra block is made for the 91% event since the player must a means to allocate the remaining experiment points to max out the line. The line at 90% would be maxed out (if the experiment attempts are success) at 9 points allocated.	+	The final affect that assembly has on the experimentation process comes in the determination of the maximum cap, or length, for the experimentation line. The experimentation line can range from 1-10 blocks in which the player can allocate experimentation points into. The size of the line determines the amount of blocks available to experiment. A value of 10% Correlates to 1 experimentation block for a total of 10 at 100%, however fractions come into play here to offer players an allocation method for experimenting when the line is not evenly cut off at the 10ths. For example: a line of experimentation that is at 91% will have 10 blocks and a line at 90% would have 9 available. The extra block is made for the 91% event since the player must a means to allocate the remaining experiment points to max out the line. The line at 90% would be maxed out (if the experiment attempts are success) at 9 points allocated. In summary, The bar's length is determined solely by the highest percentage value of the experimentation property that is available to a line.

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-Note: Like the Averaged Displayed Initial Percentage, the Displayed Experimention Percentage is misleading as it also takes the average of the experimentation line's properties to derive this value.  Also like the Averaged Displayed Initial Percentage, the Displayed Experimentation Percentage does not use the averaged value for any calculations. Each individual property is uniquely calculated to affect its relevant stats. The following would be the Displayed Experimentation Percentages for each experimentation line:
+'''Note: Like the Averaged Displayed Initial Percentage, the Displayed Experimention Percentage is misleading as it also takes the average of the experimentation line's properties to derive this value.  Also like the Averaged Displayed Initial Percentage, the Displayed Experimentation Percentage does not use the averaged value for any calculations. Each individual property is uniquely calculated to affect its relevant stats. The following would be the Displayed Experimentation Percentages for each experimentation line:'''
 Experimental Damage: 0.85281952055958904109589041095875 %
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 Experimental Efficiency: 0.93981529680753424657534246575325 %