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A 'disease' is a Damage Over Time (DOT) attack. While a target is diseased, their affected HAM bar will take on damage and wounds at every 40 second tick cycle of the disease after the target has been diseased. As an example, if a player is hit with a 100 damage disease, 40 seconds passes by and then the player takes 100 damage and then subsequently takes 100 in wounds. A disease will last until cured by the cure disease ability, teras kasi artist meditation, Force Cure Disease, Total Heal Other, Total Heal Self abilities or its duration runs out. Each form of disease attack has a base chance (possibly a potency value) of applying the disease effect. This base chance is checked against the target's disease resistance to determine the ultimate percentage chance for the effect to land.  
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A 'Fire Dot' is a Damage Over Time (DOT) attack. Targets that receive a fire dot are flagged as being On Fire. While a target is on fire, their affected HAM bar will take on damage and wounds at every 10 second tick cycle of the Fire Dot after the target has been set on fire. As an example, if a player is hit with a 100 damage Fire Dot, 10 seconds passes by and then the player takes 100 damage and then subsequently takes 100 in wounds. A Fire Dot will last until cured by the Extinguish Fire ability, Total Heal Self abilities, if the target swims into water, or its duration runs out. Each form of Fire Dot attack has a base chance (possibly a potency value) of applying the Fire Dot effect. This base chance is checked against the target's Fire Dot resistance to determine the ultimate percentage chance for the effect to land. Fire Resistance of the target also works to reduce the flame damage of the dot to the target by the listed value from skill modifiers and/or food bonuses.
  
Diseases cannot be used to kill or incapacitate a target as it will only bring the target down to 1 point of HAM at the least. Diseases can only take the target's ham bar down to its base value. For instance if a player's original mind bar stat is 1000 and has a 500 stat mind buff while diseased, then this will result in a ham pool that is 501/1500 with 999 wounds to the mind. Diseases will be removed from the player when they are killed. Only one type of disease can be placed on a HAM pool or secondary stat, regardless of the source. Furthermore, the highest strength disease overwrites lower strength disease if the target is already diseased on that particular ham pool.
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Fire Dots cannot be used to kill or incapacitate a target as it will only bring the target down to 1 point of HAM at the least. Fire Dots can only take the target's ham bar down to its base value. For instance if a player's original mind bar stat is 1000 and has a 500 stat mind buff while on fire, then this will result in a ham pool that is 501/1500 with 999 wounds to the mind. Fire Dots will be removed from the player when they are killed. Fire dots can be applied to a target provided that they are from different sources. For example flame single 1 can be applied along with flame single 2, flame cone 1 and flame cone 2. Furthermore, the highest strength Fire Dot of the same effect overwrites lower strength Fire Dot if the target is already set on fire on that particular ham pool by a similar type of attack. If the fire dot damages are the same or higher then the fire dot tick cycle is reset. The higher damage dot will begin a new tick cycle using the higher damage.
  
Battle fatigue along with combat medic effectiveness skill modifiers are factors that work to affect disease damage.  
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Battle fatigue along with combat medic effectiveness skill modifiers are factors that work to affect Fire Dot damage.  
  
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Note: NPC and creature diseases may be stacked on a player or pet's same HAM pool even while using the same special. This was presumably done to make PvM more challenging to players. Player pets however do not have this functionality and are limited to the normal rules affecting players. When the same specials are used, the added damage gets included with the ticks therefore if a 150 damage dot was originally applied and a 2nd 150 dot from the same special is applied also, the next tick will be 300 damage. The creature/npc disease timers and ticks are probably refreshed as well.
 
  
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Note: No known formula exists for calculating the chance of a Fire Dots to be applied to a target nor for the effects of fire resistance on these chances but there is probably a 5% base chance to apply a Fire Dot as well as a 5% chance to resist a Fire Dot attack, similar to the mechanics of other dots.
  
Note: No known formula exists for calculating the chance of a disease to be applied to a target nor for the effects of disease resistance on these chances but there is probably a 5% base chance to apply a disease as well as a 5% chance to resist a disease attack, similar to the mechanics of other dots.
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== Fire Dot Sources ==
  
== Disease Sources ==
 
  
  
 
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Fire Dot have a number of sources including:
Diseases have a number of sources including:
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* Special Attacks
 
* Special Attacks
* Creature Attacks
 
 
* Inherent Weapon Features
 
* Inherent Weapon Features
  
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* [[Apply Disease (Ability)|Apply Disease]] -
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* [[Torso Shot (Ability)|Torso Shot]]
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* [[Flame Single 1 (Ability)|Flame Single 1]]
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* [[Flame Single 2 (Ability)|Flame Single 2]]
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* [[Flame Cone 1 (Ability)|Flame Cone 1]]
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* [[Flame Cone 2 (Ability)|Flame Cone 2]]
  
Combat Medics have the ability to launch disease canisters at enemy targets. These disease canisters come in area of effect and single target varieties. Combat Medics have access to diseases that can damage primary and secondary stats.
 
  
  
  
''' Creature Attacks '''
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''' Inherent Weapon Features '''
  
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Weapons with inherent Fire Dots will execute this effect on any target that is hit by the attacker. Weapons with inherent  or potentially able to have Fire Dot effects include:
  
Creatures have access to five forms of diseases:
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* Exceptional Weapons
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* Legendary Weapons
  
* [[Mild Disease (Attack)|Mild disease]]
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Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects can be considered area of effect Fire Dots if the special utilizes an area of attack. The Fire Dot effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on each target within the radius on the attack if the Fire Dot weapon has a radius attack or if an area of effect special is used with that given weapon. Weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects also have a potency value which makes a check against the defender's fire resist modifiers to determine the percentage chance of successfully applying the Fire Dot effect. Dots from weapons will only execute on the target if the player is certified to use the weapon. Each successful hit on a target consumes one dot usage from the weapon.
* [[Medium Disease (Attack)|Medium Disease]]
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* [[Strong Disease (Attack)|Strong Disease]]
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* [[Plague Strike (Attack)|Plague Strike]]
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* Sarlacc Disease
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All creature diseases target the primary ham pool only and may randomly choose which ham pool is hit using the same HAM pool targeting frequency mechanics that combat uses. The sarlacc disease lasts for 1 hour and 30 minutes and probably uses the strong disease value per tick (3 damage).
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Some things to note:
  
Note: During pre-cu it seems that the disease timer was affected by other things such as potentially CL or perhaps certain creatures were given custom timers for their disease duration. This information seems to be impossible to find so the timers for their disease durations can only be generalized within the range of data collected.
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* Fire Dots from different weapons that apply their dot to the same ham stat will not stack with one another unless the weapon used are of different damage types, meaning two kinetic damage type weapons with dots will not stack but a kinetic and energy based weapon dot will stack on the same HAM pool. - (This seems to be an exploit that allowed multiple dots to be stacked onto a target. For example a player using a health dot stun pistol then a health dot energy pistol to stack two health dots on a target)
  
  
Note: The sarlacc disease is specific to the sarlacc creatures on dathomir and tatooine. If a player gets within a certain range of the sarlacc pit, they will be diseased (disease resistance apparently affects the chance for the sarlacc to apply the disease to the player). There is no data presently for the sarlaac disease strength but it is probably a strong disease variant.
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== Fire Dot Types ==
  
  
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There are 2 types of Fire Dot attacks in SWG:
  
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* Area of Effect Fire Dot
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* Single target Fire Dot
  
  
''' Inherent Weapon Features '''
 
  
Weapons with inherent diseases will execute this effect on any target that is hit by the attacker. Weapons with inherent  or potentially able to have disease effects include:
 
  
* Gammorean Battle Axe
 
* Nightsister Lance
 
* Nightsister Energy Lance
 
* Exceptional Weapons
 
* Legendary Weapons
 
  
Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent disease effects can be considered area of effect dieases if the special utilizes an area of attack. The disease effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on each target within the radius on the attack if the diseased weapon has a radius attack or if an area of effect special is used with that given weapon. Weapons with inherent disease effects also have a potency value which makes a check against the defender's disease resist modifiers to determine the percentage chance of successfully applying the disease effect. Dots from weapons will only execute on the target if the player is certified to use the weapon. Each successful hit on a target consumes one dot usage from the weapon.
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'''Area of Effect Fire Dot'''
  
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Cone Area fire dots are dots that are applied in an arching cone area emininating in front of the attacker and will hit all targets within a certain radius of the attacker. Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects can be considered area of effect Fire Dots if the special utilizes an area of attack. The Fire Dot effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on all targets within the radius on the attack.
  
Some things to note:
 
  
* Diseases from different weapons that apply their dot to the same ham stat will not stack with one another unless the weapon used are of different damage types, meaning two kinetic damage type weapons with dots will not stack but a kinetic and energy based weapon dot will stack on the same HAM pool. - (This seems to be an exploit that allowed multiple dots to be stacked onto a target. For example a player using a health dot stun pistol then a health dot energy pistol to stack two health dots on a target)
 
  
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Cone Area Fire dot sources include:
  
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* Flame Cone 1
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* Flame Cone 2
  
== Disease Types ==
 
  
  
There are 4 types of disease attacks in SWG:
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'''Single Target Fire Dot'''
  
* Area of Effect Disease
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These attacks target a single target
* Single target Disease
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* Multi pool Disease
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* Targeted pool Disease
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* Torso Shot
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* Flame Single 1
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* Flame Single 2
  
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== Formulas ==
  
'''Area of Effect Disease'''
 
  
These attacks will hit all targets within a certain radius of the attacker, where the radius is dependent on the special used and area of effect radius component on the weapon used (if the attack is done with a weapon that has an aoe component to it). Area of effect Diseases can consist of Multi Pool Diseases such as the creature attack Plague Strike. Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent Disease effects can be considered area of effect Diseases if the special utilizes an area of attack. The Disease effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on all targets within the radius on the attack.
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'''Weapon based fire dot damage'''
  
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Weapon based Fire Dot damage is based solely off of the effectiveness value on the item (strength). Whatever the strength value that is listed on the item will be what the dot will inflict at each tick cycle.
  
AOE disease sources include:
 
  
* Plague Strike
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Weapon based fire dots also cause wounds to the target which are scaled based on the battle fatigue on the target.
* AOE specials inflicting disease with weapon on targets within radius
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* ApplyDisease
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To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:
  
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Fire Dot Strength * 0.02*(100+BF)/100
  
'''Single Target Disease'''
 
  
These attacks target a single target
 
  
  
* ApplyDisease
 
  
  
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'''Torso Shot'''
  
'''Multi Pool Disease'''
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Torso Shot special fire dot damage is based off of the initial damage dealt by the special attack and weapon. The fire dot produced from torso shot will begin a tick that is 60% of the initial damage.
  
These disease attacks will randomly target one of an enemy's ham pools to apply the effect to. These attacks can have their effect applied to all of the primary ham pools.
 
  
Multi pool disease sources include:  
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Torso shot also causes wounds to the target which are scaled based on battle fatigue on the target. To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:
  
* Plague Strike
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Damage * 0.02*(100+BF)/100
  
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where damage is the initial damage value from the attack.
  
  
  
'''Targeted Pool Disease'''
 
  
  
These disease attacks will target a specific HAM pool to apply the effect on.
 
  
* ApplyDisease
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'''Commando Specials'''
 
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== Formulas ==
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Disease damage is based around three things:
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The commando specials flame single 1, 2 and flame cone 1,2 generate a fire dot tick that produces damage that is 10% of the initial damage from the attack. Commando specials also cause wounds to the target which are scaled based on the battle fatigue on the target.
  
* The disease effectiveness (or strength)
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To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:
* The target's current battle fatigue
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* The combat medic's Combat Medicine Effectiveness modifier
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Damage * 0.02*(100+BF)/100
  
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where damage is the initial damage value from the attack.
  
  
  
To calculate disease damage, the following formula is used:
 
  
Real tick damage =
 
  
'''((disease effectiveness) * (1 + (CM effectiveness) / 100)) * (1 + (target battle fatigue / 100))'''
 
  
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'''Battle Fatigue Generation'''
  
Disease effectiveness includes the disease strength stat on a creature's attack, the combat medic's disease packs or the strength value on dot weapons. Disease sources that dont use CM effectiveness modifier would use 0 for this part of the formula.
 
  
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Fire dots also produce battle fatigue. No known formula exists for battle fatigue generation from fire dots but the bf generation from diseases is known which works under similar mechanics to fire dots so that will be used here:
  
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base tick damage * .075
  
As diseases run their course on a target, they will accumulate battle fatigue. The rate at which diseases generate battle fatigue on the target uses the following formula:
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where base tick damage is the damage from the initial tick of the fire dot.
  
'''Battle fatigue incurred = Real Tick Damage * .075'''
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For an explanation of how a fire dot works with regard to high resists, see reference 1.
  
 
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A 'Fire Dot' is a Damage Over Time (DOT) attack. Targets that receive a fire dot are flagged as being On Fire. While a target is on fire, their affected HAM bar will take on damage and wounds at every 10 second tick cycle of the Fire Dot after the target has been set on fire. As an example, if a player is hit with a 100 damage Fire Dot, 10 seconds passes by and then the player takes 100 damage and then subsequently takes 100 in wounds. A Fire Dot will last until cured by the Extinguish Fire ability, Total Heal Self abilities, if the target swims into water, or its duration runs out. Each form of Fire Dot attack has a base chance (possibly a potency value) of applying the Fire Dot effect. This base chance is checked against the target's Fire Dot resistance to determine the ultimate percentage chance for the effect to land. Fire Resistance of the target also works to reduce the flame damage of the dot to the target by the listed value from skill modifiers and/or food bonuses.

Fire Dots cannot be used to kill or incapacitate a target as it will only bring the target down to 1 point of HAM at the least. Fire Dots can only take the target's ham bar down to its base value. For instance if a player's original mind bar stat is 1000 and has a 500 stat mind buff while on fire, then this will result in a ham pool that is 501/1500 with 999 wounds to the mind. Fire Dots will be removed from the player when they are killed. Fire dots can be applied to a target provided that they are from different sources. For example flame single 1 can be applied along with flame single 2, flame cone 1 and flame cone 2. Furthermore, the highest strength Fire Dot of the same effect overwrites lower strength Fire Dot if the target is already set on fire on that particular ham pool by a similar type of attack. If the fire dot damages are the same or higher then the fire dot tick cycle is reset. The higher damage dot will begin a new tick cycle using the higher damage.

Battle fatigue along with combat medic effectiveness skill modifiers are factors that work to affect Fire Dot damage.



Note: No known formula exists for calculating the chance of a Fire Dots to be applied to a target nor for the effects of fire resistance on these chances but there is probably a 5% base chance to apply a Fire Dot as well as a 5% chance to resist a Fire Dot attack, similar to the mechanics of other dots.

Fire Dot Sources

Fire Dot have a number of sources including:

  • Special Attacks
  • Inherent Weapon Features



Special Attacks




Inherent Weapon Features

Weapons with inherent Fire Dots will execute this effect on any target that is hit by the attacker. Weapons with inherent or potentially able to have Fire Dot effects include:

  • Exceptional Weapons
  • Legendary Weapons

Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects can be considered area of effect Fire Dots if the special utilizes an area of attack. The Fire Dot effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on each target within the radius on the attack if the Fire Dot weapon has a radius attack or if an area of effect special is used with that given weapon. Weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects also have a potency value which makes a check against the defender's fire resist modifiers to determine the percentage chance of successfully applying the Fire Dot effect. Dots from weapons will only execute on the target if the player is certified to use the weapon. Each successful hit on a target consumes one dot usage from the weapon.


Some things to note:

  • Fire Dots from different weapons that apply their dot to the same ham stat will not stack with one another unless the weapon used are of different damage types, meaning two kinetic damage type weapons with dots will not stack but a kinetic and energy based weapon dot will stack on the same HAM pool. - (This seems to be an exploit that allowed multiple dots to be stacked onto a target. For example a player using a health dot stun pistol then a health dot energy pistol to stack two health dots on a target)




Fire Dot Types

There are 2 types of Fire Dot attacks in SWG:

  • Area of Effect Fire Dot
  • Single target Fire Dot



Area of Effect Fire Dot

Cone Area fire dots are dots that are applied in an arching cone area emininating in front of the attacker and will hit all targets within a certain radius of the attacker. Presumably special attacks that utilize weapons with inherent Fire Dot effects can be considered area of effect Fire Dots if the special utilizes an area of attack. The Fire Dot effect from the weapon would attempt to apply its effect individually on all targets within the radius on the attack.


Cone Area Fire dot sources include:

  • Flame Cone 1
  • Flame Cone 2


Single Target Fire Dot

These attacks target a single target


  • Torso Shot
  • Flame Single 1
  • Flame Single 2



Formulas

Weapon based fire dot damage

Weapon based Fire Dot damage is based solely off of the effectiveness value on the item (strength). Whatever the strength value that is listed on the item will be what the dot will inflict at each tick cycle.


Weapon based fire dots also cause wounds to the target which are scaled based on the battle fatigue on the target.

To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:

Fire Dot Strength * 0.02*(100+BF)/100




Torso Shot

Torso Shot special fire dot damage is based off of the initial damage dealt by the special attack and weapon. The fire dot produced from torso shot will begin a tick that is 60% of the initial damage.


Torso shot also causes wounds to the target which are scaled based on battle fatigue on the target. To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:

Damage * 0.02*(100+BF)/100

where damage is the initial damage value from the attack.




Commando Specials


The commando specials flame single 1, 2 and flame cone 1,2 generate a fire dot tick that produces damage that is 10% of the initial damage from the attack. Commando specials also cause wounds to the target which are scaled based on the battle fatigue on the target.

To calculate the amount of wounds generated at each tick of the dot, the following formula is used:

Damage * 0.02*(100+BF)/100

where damage is the initial damage value from the attack.




Battle Fatigue Generation


Fire dots also produce battle fatigue. No known formula exists for battle fatigue generation from fire dots but the bf generation from diseases is known which works under similar mechanics to fire dots so that will be used here:

base tick damage * .075

where base tick damage is the damage from the initial tick of the fire dot.

For an explanation of how a fire dot works with regard to high resists, see reference 1.

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1 http://swgforums.swganh.org/viewtopic.php?search_id=1529911783&t=142979